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	<title>Comments on: Want An Electrode In Your Brain?</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Dooling</title>
		<link>http://www.richarddooling.com/index.php/2006/02/15/want-an-electrode-in-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Dooling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like trying to punch the buttons on a cell phone with your elbow? Or what&#039;s the other one I&#039;ve heard: like a monkey playing a harpsichord with shovel?

Thanks, Bill. Good luck. Keep us posted, although, somehow I believe that we&#039;ll hear about it if you win approval for your experiment.

If you need a writer to cover it, I&#039;m your man.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like trying to punch the buttons on a cell phone with your elbow? Or what&#8217;s the other one I&#8217;ve heard: like a monkey playing a harpsichord with shovel?</p>
<p>Thanks, Bill. Good luck. Keep us posted, although, somehow I believe that we&#8217;ll hear about it if you win approval for your experiment.</p>
<p>If you need a writer to cover it, I&#8217;m your man.</p>
<p>Richard Dooling</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Newsome</title>
		<link>http://www.richarddooling.com/index.php/2006/02/15/want-an-electrode-in-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Newsome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

TMS won&#039;t cut it - not because it is shallow, but because its spatial resolution is egregiously bad.  At best one can restrict TMS effects to roughly a square cm of brain (as I understand it).  The clusters of neurons that carry the discrete motion signals in MT are on the order of 100-200 microns.  TMS would simply smear a signal across clusters encoding ALL directions of motion.  What I want to know is what one &quot;sees&quot; when a single cluster, encoding a particular direction of motion, is electrically stimulated.  This is the central goal - being able to correlate the activity of *physiologically* characterized microcircuits to perceptual experience.  Just blasting the brain indiscriminately with large amount of current is of little scientific value to me....

Regards,
Bill Newsome
Stanford University</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>TMS won&#8217;t cut it &#8211; not because it is shallow, but because its spatial resolution is egregiously bad.  At best one can restrict TMS effects to roughly a square cm of brain (as I understand it).  The clusters of neurons that carry the discrete motion signals in MT are on the order of 100-200 microns.  TMS would simply smear a signal across clusters encoding ALL directions of motion.  What I want to know is what one &#8220;sees&#8221; when a single cluster, encoding a particular direction of motion, is electrically stimulated.  This is the central goal &#8211; being able to correlate the activity of *physiologically* characterized microcircuits to perceptual experience.  Just blasting the brain indiscriminately with large amount of current is of little scientific value to me&#8230;.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Bill Newsome<br />
Stanford University</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Chatham</title>
		<link>http://www.richarddooling.com/index.php/2006/02/15/want-an-electrode-in-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Chatham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, good point (i brought this up on another forum and got the same response!)

From what little I could gather from the article, however, it doesn&#039;t sound like he&#039;s planning to go very deep into cortex anyway, for fear of damage to vasculature.  Then again, I could just be exaggering what&#039;s between the lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, good point (i brought this up on another forum and got the same response!)</p>
<p>From what little I could gather from the article, however, it doesn&#8217;t sound like he&#8217;s planning to go very deep into cortex anyway, for fear of damage to vasculature.  Then again, I could just be exaggering what&#8217;s between the lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Dooling</title>
		<link>http://www.richarddooling.com/index.php/2006/02/15/want-an-electrode-in-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Dooling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

It might depend what area he&#039;s after. My neuroscience is rusty, but last time I checked TMS is pretty &quot;shallow.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>It might depend what area he&#8217;s after. My neuroscience is rusty, but last time I checked TMS is pretty &#8220;shallow.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Chatham</title>
		<link>http://www.richarddooling.com/index.php/2006/02/15/want-an-electrode-in-your-brain/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Chatham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting idea, but as he admits, it&#039;s not particularly new.  If his goal is direct neural stimulation, I&#039;m surprised he doesn&#039;t just buy himself a big magnet and do some DIY transcranial magnetic stimulation.

I mean, how much is a single electrode or electrode array in IT likely to tell us about consciousness?  It would be much more efficient to spend the time (and insurance money) on TMS.</description>
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<p>I mean, how much is a single electrode or electrode array in IT likely to tell us about consciousness?  It would be much more efficient to spend the time (and insurance money) on TMS.</p>
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